living from fullness

What Does it Mean to Make Disciples?

A few weeks ago, we introduced the new Trail Guide at Lifestream and The God Journey websites with some trepidation. It’s a chatbot loaded with all the information from those websites and My Friend Luis, as well as all my books. It can help people search those resources as well as summarize my thoughts on a variety of topics drawn from my writings and podcasts.

I get that some people are deeply concerned about AI and its future, and question my use of it here. I appreciate those concerns, which is why I keep a close check on the Trail Guide. As long as it’s helpful, we will keep it available.  But it is on a short leash, should something go awry.

Weekly, I get to review a log of the questions and answers from the previous week to ensure that all is well. Rest assured, however, that I do not see the names of anyone asking questions, since the Trail Guide does not ask for, nor does it retain, any identifying information about who is interacting with the Trail Guide.

So, how is it working?  Better than I could have hoped. I’m fascinated by how it can pull from so many sources and come up with summaries that are accurate and helpful, as well as provide additional links if people want to explore the answer a bit more deeply. The way people are using the Trail Guide is exactly what I hoped for. It allows you to access my content and explore topics that might interest you.

For those who haven’t tried it yet, here are a few examples of what it does:

Q: What does Wayne teach about making disciples?

Trail Guide: Wayne’s understanding of discipleship is quite different from what most people have been taught. He sees it not as a program or a set of practices to master, but as learning to follow Jesus himself—and that happens through relationship, not religious instruction. In Learning to Follow the Shepherd, Wayne pushes back against the idea that discipleship means building a relationship with God through intellectual principles or becoming like a particular teacher.

The real goal, he says, is to become a follower of Jesus—to reflect the Father’s nature in the world. That means learning to listen to his voice and follow him, not following a person or a program. What makes discipleship real, in Wayne’s view, is conversation and relationship. In The Approval Addiction, he reflects on how Jesus discipled his friends by talking with them about what mattered most—not performing for an audience, but inviting them into genuine friendship. The goal of a good teacher, he says, is to enable people to do what he’s done and even more, not to create dependency on himself.

This comes through clearly in So You Don’t Want to Go to Church Anymore? Wayne’s novel about a disillusioned pastor learning from a stranger who bears an uncanny resemblance to John the apostle. The story shows discipleship as it really works: asking questions, helping someone see what they haven’t seen before, and pointing them toward Jesus rather than toward yourself.

Wayne also teaches that real discipleship happens when people learn to recognize the Father’s voice in their own lives—not when they’re told what to believe or how to behave. In The Church Jesus Modeled, he contrasts this with the religious approach of making “good practitioners of Christianity” through programs. True discipleship, he says, is about helping people discover Jesus’s voice and learn to follow him—so they don’t need you anymore.

Sources: The Approval Addiction (#566), The Church Jesus Modeled (#809), Learning to Follow the Shepherd

This exchange made me laugh as a typo, or autocorrect, caused some initial confusion, but the Trail Guide finally understood:

Q: Tell me about living from folders

Trail Guide: I’m not finding where Wayne takes up “living from folders” directly in the material I have at hand. That phrase doesn’t surface in his books, articles, or podcast episodes that I can see.

Could you say a bit more about what you mean? Once I understand what you’re getting at, I can point you toward what Wayne has said that might speak to it.

Q: Fullness

Trail Guide: I’d love to help, but I’m not quite sure what you’re asking about. When you say “fullness,” are you wondering about: Living in the fullness of God’s love and the Father’s affection? Experiencing fullness in your relationship with Jesus day to day? Something else entirely? A quick word would help me point you toward what Wayne has written that speaks to what’s on your heart.

Q: Living from fullness

Trail Guide: Living from fullness is one of Wayne’s most central themes — and it’s the opposite of what most of us have been taught to do. The heart of it is this: fullness isn’t something you achieve or figure out. It’s not about keeping rules or getting your life in order first. You’re already rooted in Christ, already complete in him. The work is learning to live from that reality instead of constantly reaching outside yourself — to your job, your relationships, your circumstances, money, respect — trying to fill a hole that only God can fill.

When your fullness comes from the Father’s love and presence, everything changes. You stop needing things from people or situations to make you whole. That frees you to love others without desperation, to respond to life from a full tank rather than an empty one. As Wayne puts it, when you’re full in God, you can live toward others in genuine love — what he and Tobie van der Westhuizen call “the justice of love” — instead of using them to get what you’re missing.

The practical side is simple but profound: when you notice discontent rising, when you’re grasping for something outside yourself, pause and redirect your heart. “I want my fullness to be in you,” not in that thing, that person’s approval, that outcome. Over time, that reorienting becomes a way of life. Wayne explores this beautifully in Living from Fullness (#1009), and it’s woven through Just Love and his teaching on Affection Presence And Fullness. You might also find the curated page How can I live every day in the Father’s love? a rich place to explore this theme more deeply.

Sources: Living from Fullness (#1009), Affection Presence And Fullness

And sometimes I ask it a question, just to see how it will answer:

Q: How does the business model behind religious institutions distort the authenticity of its message?

Trail Guide:

Wayne sees the business model behind religious institutions as fundamentally at odds with the gospel itself. Once money enters the picture—salaries to pay, buildings to maintain, growth metrics to hit—the machinery takes over, and the message gets distorted almost inevitably.

In “Monetizing Ministry,” Wayne traces how this happens. When an institution depends on donations and revenue, decision-making revolves around economics rather than the Spirit’s leading. Large donors gain leverage. Pastors are forced to sign non-compete clauses. Publishers become publicly traded corporations chasing shareholder profits. The result is that we’ve moved from serving God’s kingdom to building our own—valuing size, influence, money, and notoriety instead of the obscurity, servanthood, and flexibility that actually mark Jesus’s way.

The deeper problem is that money always wins out, even among those who start with the best intentions. Jesus said you cannot serve God and money, but we’ve convinced ourselves we can blend them. We can’t. The business model doesn’t just distort the message—it replaces it. Instead of inviting people into genuine encounter with the Father, institutions resort to pressure and manipulation, framing attendance as obligation and threatening spiritual danger for those who leave.

What gets lost is authenticity itself. When people have to perform to please leadership whose success depends on their obedience, when guilt and fear become the tools of “accountability,” the relational heart of the gospel—living loved, known by the Father—disappears. The machinery grinds on, but the life is gone.

If this resonates with you, “Finding Church”explores what authentic church actually looks like when it’s freed from institutional frameworks, and the curated page “Where will I find the church Jesus is building?” gathers Wayne’s best work on this theme.

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I Love How God Works

In October 2024, a man named Tobie van der Westhuizen wrote to ask if I would explore some research he had been pursuing for eight years. It centered on the Greek word our English Bibles usually translate as “righteousness.”

I immediately recognized how closely his discoveries aligned with what God’s love had been teaching me for the previous thirty years. Many Zoom conversations followed. Eventually, we began writing together, and a year later, that collaboration became Just Love: How One Mistranslated Word Distorted the Gospel.

Last weekend, Tobie and I finally met face to face. We shared our first meal and then spent three days with forty people who had traveled from across the country to join our conversation.

There is no better test of whether two lives fit together as well as their words than sharing a room, a conversation, and all the little decisions that fill a weekend. I was not disappointed.

Tobie and I fit together like two living stones God had been shaping for decades on opposite sides of the world. We could share the conversation without competing for it, lay aside our own agendas, and make room for whatever God might be doing among us. I came away treasuring Tobie and his wife, Rev, not merely as collaborators, but as dear friends.

Tobie and I also recorded a podcast reflecting on the weekend, which will be released this Friday.

Something similar happened among the forty people who joined us. We began as strangers, representing many backgrounds and almost every Christian tradition. Yet from the beginning, people engaged the ideas in Just Love not merely as theology, but vulnerably, asking how God’s love might transform the struggles and relationships of their own lives.

Before long, strangers became friends. Meals stretched into rich conversations. People listened generously, shared honestly, and made room for one another.

I saw again how Jesus is shaping his bride—not through human contrivance or institutional machinery, but by his Spirit forming people in love and fitting them together as living stones. I love that so much.

Those who have read Just Love know this conversation is about far more than correcting a mistranslated word. It opens a larger understanding of the gospel, God’s purpose in creation, and how we participate with him in making all things new.

Translating the biblical word as “justice” shifts the center of gravity from our becoming morally pure to God making all things right. Moral transformation matters, but it is only part of a much greater story.

The gospel announces that, in Jesus Christ, God’s justice has entered the world—not merely to punish evil, but to forgive sin, heal the human heart, restore relationships, gather a new humanity, and make creation whole.

And where does that begin?

It begins by each of us relaxing into his love, becoming aware of his presence, and learning to live from the fullness he gives. As his love becomes real within us, we no longer need to exploit others to meet our needs or chase the world’s trinkets to fill up what we lack inside. We become free to live generously, distributing life rather than taking it.

The just life is a life full of love.

Many of us have been intimidated by a God whose “righteousness” was presented primarily as moral perfection. But when we understand his justice as the determination to make all things right, his holiness becomes not only awesome, but deeply beautiful. God will not abandon the abused. He will not ignore evil. He will not allow lies to define reality or death to have the final word. He will not leave sinners trapped in deception, nor will he discard the creation he loves.

He will make right what love created good.

That is no less holy. It is holiness as transforming power, flowing freely through love.

Many who attended asked whether we might do more gatherings like this. With Tobie living in South Africa and leading a school, such weekends are not easy to arrange. We will have to see where God might lead.

I do know that this conversation—moving from a preoccupation with personal righteousness into a life shaped by love—is important for all of us. I pray you have people with whom you can explore it honestly and live it together. I’ll have more on that in a future blog.

Let me add a personal note. Several people seemed surprised that I looked so “healthy.” Knowing that I am living with multiple myeloma and receiving chemotherapy to keep it in remission, some apparently expected me to look depleted or battle-weary.

The truth is that, if you saw me today, you would have no idea that cancer lurks within. I feel as strong as I did before my diagnosis and surgery, thanks to God’s mercy, an extraordinary medical team, and the medications that continue to hold it in check. I remain deeply grateful that none of this has diminished my ability to live, love, write, travel, and participate in weekends like this one.

The photograph below includes about half of those who joined us—the ones still present when we remembered to take a photo late Saturday. It brings back treasured memories of a weekend well spent, among living stones being shaped together by love. I am grateful to all of you and blessed that you took the time to join us.

 

 

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